I'm still working on the list. We started with the list from the original book, J.E.R. IV and some other folks made some suggestions, some of the monsters were changed a little... some of the more redundant creatures will be made more unique. I don't fully know what the final list will look like 100%; there are still a lot of contenders... but, as you can see from the pic above, there is a skeleton/undead thing, a plant/venus fly trap and a well hung devil --- so that's 3 of the new ones so far. The zombie, fungus creature, braniac, tentacler, leech and bug-man appeared in the previous edition and will make a re-appearance unless any of them get booted by something better.
It's not too late --- make a suggestion and maybe we can include it! Because of a printing limitation, we have to stick with 32 creatures... but if something were to be suggested that might kick ass, maybe something else could be booted to make way.
Raggi's suggestions were really pretty good, since I originally just sort of made up the monsters as I went along and he helped by saying we should look at the book as a whole... some of the original creatures are good by themselves, but didn't add a lot to the tool kit. I'm hoping that the new content will make people who already have the original feel like they got a lot of new stuff beyond just nicer printing, better pictures, etc.
Alos, that skeleton strikes me as a perfect example of a certain late seventies/early eighties "lurid horror-fantasy" aesthetic, down to the sword, boots and hourglass.
What about good writers? Your focus on fantasy art is sharpening. Art is the easy part demonstrated by the ease of finding talented artists. Its not so easy to find good writers. Id like to see you justify the inordinate value you place on art in a post.
Please dont say its what the typical osr consumer (mug) wants.
Art is a very superficial unthinking gloss for fantasies.
Art is much easier to preview out of context with the entire work. "Look at this paragraph!" means nothing out of context.
Poag already wrote the book, and this particular book's utility rests upon its physical and graphic design.
People still talk about things like Elmore vs Otus and how solid the original PHB, MM, and DMG printings were versus how awful the UA binding was. Obviously such things are just as important to oldschool games as they are to today's top-sellers.
I made six figures off my art this year, wrote a book and just finished touring with the book I wrote before that. And, of course, had sex with Kent's mom.
Hello Ed Dove: I have to confess I don't really know Wayne Barlowe's work, but I look forward to learning more. You want to know what a dweeb I am? When I read your post, I tried to look up 'Wayne Barlowesque' like that was his name... what a dork I am. I think I have seen reproductions of his 'Guide to Extraterrestrials' a while back but I think it may be out of print and therefore selling for more than I can afford right now. Hey, guys, enough with the fag insults, OK? Thanks all for the compliments.
Barlowe did a fantasy book similar to the aliens book, with characters from the sort of books you find in Appendix N. I got his aliens book used for $1; there were lots of them printed; not sure about the fantasy book though; I've only found it in libraries. I think he also did a 'future evolution' type book and I know he did illustrations for Dante's Inferno, which I didn't care for.
That looks great. I love the original but now I'm obviously going to have to get this edition too.
ReplyDeleteMore photographic proof that I'm the only author working with James who can't draw. ;)
ReplyDeletewow.
ReplyDeleteOMG it's going to be fucking brilliant!!
ReplyDeleteThose look great.
ReplyDeleteDevil Boner!!
ReplyDeleteCould we get a list of the additional 6 new monsters in the LOTFP edition?
I'm still working on the list. We started with the list from the original book, J.E.R. IV and some other folks made some suggestions, some of the monsters were changed a little... some of the more redundant creatures will be made more unique. I don't fully know what the final list will look like 100%; there are still a lot of contenders... but, as you can see from the pic above, there is a skeleton/undead thing, a plant/venus fly trap and a well hung devil --- so that's 3 of the new ones so far. The zombie, fungus creature, braniac, tentacler, leech and bug-man appeared in the previous edition and will make a re-appearance unless any of them get booted by something better.
ReplyDeleteIt's not too late --- make a suggestion and maybe we can include it! Because of a printing limitation, we have to stick with 32 creatures... but if something were to be suggested that might kick ass, maybe something else could be booted to make way.
ReplyDeleteRaggi's suggestions were really pretty good, since I originally just sort of made up the monsters as I went along and he helped by saying we should look at the book as a whole... some of the original creatures are good by themselves, but didn't add a lot to the tool kit. I'm hoping that the new content will make people who already have the original feel like they got a lot of new stuff beyond just nicer printing, better pictures, etc.
Alos, that skeleton strikes me as a perfect example of a certain late seventies/early eighties "lurid horror-fantasy" aesthetic, down to the sword, boots and hourglass.
ReplyDeleteWhat about good writers? Your focus on fantasy art is sharpening. Art is the easy part demonstrated by the ease of finding talented artists. Its not so easy to find good writers. Id like to see you justify the inordinate value you place on art in a post.
ReplyDeletePlease dont say its what the typical osr consumer (mug) wants.
Art is a very superficial unthinking gloss for fantasies.
Art is much easier to preview out of context with the entire work. "Look at this paragraph!" means nothing out of context.
ReplyDeletePoag already wrote the book, and this particular book's utility rests upon its physical and graphic design.
People still talk about things like Elmore vs Otus and how solid the original PHB, MM, and DMG printings were versus how awful the UA binding was. Obviously such things are just as important to oldschool games as they are to today's top-sellers.
Kent: As artist and author of E.C., all I can say is "Put it down and walk away; it is not for you."
ReplyDeleteI'm intrigued.
ReplyDelete@Kent, I'm curious, since art is the easy part -
ReplyDeleteHow much money do you make a year with your art?
at sea,
ReplyDeleteGood artists are over *supplied*. Good writers are nowhere to be seen.
A drawing by me would fetch two onions.
I made six figures off my art this year, wrote a book and just finished touring with the book I wrote before that. And, of course, had sex with Kent's mom.
ReplyDelete@Kent, can you please explain what you mean by "art is a very superficial, unthinking gloss for fantasies"?
ReplyDeleteSo Zak you look and talk like a fag yet aspire to sleep with old ladies. Very manly.
ReplyDeleteKent said: "So Zak you look and talk like a fag yet aspire to sleep with old ladies. Very manly."
ReplyDeleteJust making sure he can't delete what he said, and leaving it there so there's a record of just how seriously people should take Kent.
As long as you dont delete his comment Im fine with that.
ReplyDelete"Devil Boner!!"--Blair
ReplyDeleteNot just devil boner, but cum-squirting devil boner.
I would've expected a supernatural manifestation of lust to cum with plenty enough force for a much flatter trajectory though.
"...you look and talk like a fag yet aspire to sleep with old ladies."--Kent
ReplyDeleteBetter than looking and talking like an old lady yet aspiring to sleep with fags.
Now, about Stefan Poag's art...
ReplyDeleteSome of the pieces seem very Wayne Barlowesque to me. I'm wondering if there was any conscious influence?
"Aspire"? I did it. Mandy and Viv are pissed, too, because she didn't have her test.
ReplyDeleteBut man, she was right there, and she looked -so lonely-.
BEST NEWS EVAR!
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing Kent didn't get enough attention as a child...
Hello Ed Dove:
ReplyDeleteI have to confess I don't really know Wayne Barlowe's work, but I look forward to learning more. You want to know what a dweeb I am? When I read your post, I tried to look up 'Wayne Barlowesque' like that was his name... what a dork I am. I think I have seen reproductions of his 'Guide to Extraterrestrials' a while back but I think it may be out of print and therefore selling for more than I can afford right now.
Hey, guys, enough with the fag insults, OK?
Thanks all for the compliments.
"I don't really know Wayne Barlowe's work"--limpey
ReplyDeleteIf you weren't influenced by Barlowe's art, then I wonder if both of you might've been influenced by somebody else in common?
"I think I have seen reproductions of his 'Guide to Extraterrestrials'"--limpey
That is the thing of his that some of your pieces do remind me of. (It's also the only work of his that I know I've seen too.)
Barlowe did a fantasy book similar to the aliens book, with characters from the sort of books you find in Appendix N. I got his aliens book used for $1; there were lots of them printed; not sure about the fantasy book though; I've only found it in libraries. I think he also did a 'future evolution' type book and I know he did illustrations for Dante's Inferno, which I didn't care for.
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