tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post8166743566964016833..comments2024-02-16T22:05:32.773+02:00Comments on LotFP: RPG: The Lord of the Rings movies are FecesJimLotFPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02992397707040836366noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-52346883806803396982021-10-02T12:44:56.145+03:002021-10-02T12:44:56.145+03:00The worst part of it was that the software only wo...The worst part of it was that the software only worked intermittently and the data was not accurate. 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ALL movies are made for people who don't read books. <br />2. Yes, the Scouring of the Shire was the entire point of the books and it was criminal that's the worst offense of the movies.<br />3. Read the goddamned Princes Bride! The Savage/Falk interludes are the "Scouring of the Shire" of the book!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14436203854685426685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-45679740094325098772010-03-16T01:38:04.286+02:002010-03-16T01:38:04.286+02:00The armour in "Excalibur" was made by Te...The armour in "Excalibur" was made by Terry English and was real armour. If the actors jumped around in it like it weighted only fractions of a pound, then good on the actors. I won't put links here (I don't think I am allowed to do so) but five minutes on google will change some opinions. Steel armour is actually a third the weight of rubber or polyurethane armour (but steel rusts and dents which is a problem for film continuity)<br /> I am a professional armour maker myself, and if you wanted me to fit you out in a real armour, you might be very surprised at how comfortable a real armour can be. <br /><br />Bill Fedun<br />Armour makerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-36162906038457172152008-12-27T02:09:00.000+02:002008-12-27T02:09:00.000+02:00"Peter Jackson's "Lord of the Rings&..."Peter Jackson's "Lord of the Rings" completely screws up the beginning and the ending. The beginning of the movie takes years in the books. Gandalf's researching the ring (which is done with a quick montage in the films) has him gone decades."<BR/><BR/>In defence of the film, I have to say, I never understood why, in the book, it took Gandalf so long to identify The Ring.<BR/>Middle Earth is not a setting that is swimming in magic items, like the typical D&D world. The magic of the world is more subtle, like the protective auras of Lorien and Rivendell.<BR/><BR/>How many other Rings of Invisibility are there?<BR/>Gandalf never mentions any red herrings, or leads that came to nothing. Indeed, the only magic rings mentioned in the whole series are the ones related to Sauron. That alone should have been reason enough to call the Council of Elrond at the earliest opportunity, not leave it to work its poison on Bilbo's mind for years.<BR/><BR/>So; I understand why that got changed, and I can't get worked up about it.<BR/><BR/>I do wish they'd included the Scouring of the Shire, though. For me, that was one of the major events. If they'd cut out some of the Brokeback Mount Doom moments, the hobbit-gazing at the Grey Havens, and played the elves' scenes at normal speed instead of artistic slo-mo, they might have been able to fit that chapter in, if only on the Special Edition DVD.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-80035054005427818812008-12-20T00:14:00.000+02:002008-12-20T00:14:00.000+02:00Crap on a stick. Blogger ate my lengthy reply.Mos...Crap on a stick. Blogger ate my lengthy reply.<BR/><BR/>Most essential part: I recommend The Princess Bride book.Jeff Rientshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17493878980535235896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-4457021418702817082008-12-19T17:18:00.000+02:002008-12-19T17:18:00.000+02:00Admittedly, I saw Excalibur a LONG time ago. Perha...Admittedly, I saw Excalibur a LONG time ago. Perhaps if I re-watched it I might find more to like in it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-64706224276342305742008-12-19T16:05:00.000+02:002008-12-19T16:05:00.000+02:00The thing to remember about Arthurian source mater...The thing to remember about Arthurian source material is that it was written hundreds of years after the events depicted by writers without any meaningful understanding of history. A 14th century writer would have assumed that all the technology in his time also existed in the age of Arthur. So, a movie that's faithful to Arthurian source material will by definition be full of historical anachronisms. Also - aren't we talking about FANTASY here?Matt Johnsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14363964344435091958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-33477549525383458552008-12-19T05:23:00.000+02:002008-12-19T05:23:00.000+02:00The whole point of LotR was summed up when Sam, in...The whole point of LotR was summed up when Sam, in Mordor, with his beloved master captured and probably tortured or dead, is tempted by the Ring. The Ring promises him that he can save the people he loves and indeed set all the world at peace. All Sam has to do to make earthly the paradise of his sentiments is claim the Ring as his own, and in doing so give himself to it. But then he thinks of his friendship with Frodo, and the simplicity of a free gardner, and resists the temptation. He resisted it because, even if it was not a trick, he had the humility to know that it was not his place to dictate to others on the basis of his passions.<BR/><BR/>The Ring is greed, power and pride. And even at its strongest, it can be defeated by humility, friendship and common decency.<BR/><BR/>Tolkien KICKS ASS. Unfortunately, Peter Jackson cut out such ass-kicking parts so he could show us a ho-hum pageant of comic book violence. Instead of seeing the triumph of common decency over unbridled ambition, we got to see Saving Private Frodo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-84434957849396727692008-12-19T04:58:00.000+02:002008-12-19T04:58:00.000+02:00I would agree with you there, Brian. There is very...I would agree with you there, Brian. There is very little about the use of armour in <I>Excalibur</I> that struck me as inauthentic in terms of weight, flexibility, or athletic capability. People often conflate late period jousting armour with battlefield plate, which drives an unfortunate and inaccurate perception of the lumbering knight.<BR/><BR/>As to the sex in armour, I am reasonably sure that had some sort of symbolic meaning. The actress was actually the director's daughter, or so I am given to understand, which makes me wonder whether there was an ulterior motivation, perhaps some misplaced parental concern ("Naked is fine, but no touching!").Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05646247954542936623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-74430984742355220622008-12-19T04:48:00.000+02:002008-12-19T04:48:00.000+02:00Yes, that's Excalibur. And the sex scene in plate ...Yes, that's Excalibur. And the sex scene in plate is rather... memorable, and not in an entirely good way.<BR/><BR/>I don't know enough about plate armor to say whether it is portrayed unrealistically in Excalibur, but I have watched some videos floating around on the Web of dudes doing cartwheels in full plate, proving that it wasn't nearly as cumbersome as many thought.Brian Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05563309422791320114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-82084373888092963862008-12-19T04:41:00.000+02:002008-12-19T04:41:00.000+02:00I'm fine with Arthur and his knights wearing plate...I'm fine with Arthur and his knights wearing plate.<BR/><BR/>What bothers me is the plate weighing 2 ounces. The movie I remember has knights running around in plate as though it were made from ultra-light-weight plastic.<BR/><BR/>And a knight freakin' has sex with a woman WHILE THE KNIGHT IS STILL WEARING HIS PLATE. That's just ridiculous.<BR/><BR/>I honestly don't know if it's Excalibur that I'm remembering, but there definitely is some movie like that. And I couldn't stand it.<BR/><BR/>Does this stuff happen in Excalibur?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-41638231564808233512008-12-19T04:22:00.000+02:002008-12-19T04:22:00.000+02:00As for Geoffrey's comment about Excalibur, any cla...As for Geoffrey's comment about Excalibur, any claim to historic accuracy was tossed out the window in the first 5 seconds of the film. During the opening sequence Boorman pastes "The Dark Ages" (roughly 500-1000 AD) on a black background--and then cuts to knights fighting in full plate, a sight which wasn't seen until the 14th century or so. <BR/><BR/>But you're missing the point if you go into a King Arthur film with an eye trained on historic accuracy. The Arthur stories are a collection of myths, and nothing more. Whether or not there was ever a historic Arthur, we do know that the Knights of the Round Table, Guienvere, Merlin, etc, were entirely fiction. What's important are the archetypes and the underlying message, and I think Excalibur succeeds remarkably well in its particular spin on the tale.Brian Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05563309422791320114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-42910646835975538462008-12-19T04:11:00.000+02:002008-12-19T04:11:00.000+02:00Hey James, well, suffice to say that we'll have to...Hey James, well, suffice to say that we'll have to agree to disagree on the Jackson films. I'm one of those rare birds who enjoys both. And while I prefer the novels, I will maintain that Jackson did a far, far better job at adapting Tolkien's work than I could have hoped. They're far from perfect and if you poke around my Web site you'll find I have never made that claim.<BR/><BR/>As Badelaire pointed out above, books and films are vastly different mediums and I can only imagine the enormous difficulty of bringing The Lord of the Rings to the screen. I understand your aggravation at the compressed beginning of Fellowship, and I suppose Jackson could have used some film technique to allow for the passing of several months. I happen to think his decision not to do so was a simple matter of pacing.<BR/><BR/>As for butchering the ending, well, I was disappointed to see no Scouring of the Shire. But I will argue that Jackson kept the spirit of Tolkien's message about "The long defeat" intact. We still get a visibly wounded Frodo, and Gandalf and Bilbo and the elves, departing for the West, and a sense of magic draining out of the world. Or at least I do.<BR/><BR/>As for Conan the Barbarian, no arguments from me that it's not Howard. But I maintain that, if it were called by any other name, the film would be an enduring piece of swords and sorcery cinema, and not reviled as it is by Howard fandom. I think it's a well-told, engaging story, thoughtfully made, and just plain old bloody fun.Brian Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05563309422791320114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-72780231011661084202008-12-18T23:56:00.000+02:002008-12-18T23:56:00.000+02:00Assuming that we're not counting the 1977 Star War...Assuming that we're not counting the 1977 Star Wars and the 1933 King Kong as fantasy films, I'd say that the best fantasy film is Ray Harryhausen's Jason and the Argonauts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-81740125401070925182008-12-18T21:35:00.000+02:002008-12-18T21:35:00.000+02:00Although I don't necessarily disagree with you on ...Although I don't necessarily disagree with you on some of these points, all I can work myself up for is a hearty "meh". <BR/><BR/>Film is not literature, literature is not film. You cannot take one and put it into the other without losing much of the original in the process. And pointing to the handful of adaptations that HAVE worked and saying, "Look! It was done there, so WHY didn't it work here?" is an equally pointless exercise. <BR/><BR/>The life-cycle of a film, from inspiration to theatrical release, is a unique and fragile endeavor that never turns out the way it was intended. The road of filmic adaptations is often paved with the best of intentions, but it rarely turns out as little more than a disappointment for the majority of people who go to see it BECAUSE it was an adaptation of something they love (which sounds like self-torture to me, but whatever).<BR/><BR/>Anyhow, again, you've got a lot of good points, but ultimately you're railing against something that not only will not change, but, I feel, cannot change.Jack Badelairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10932441028544500024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-35195917464109979272008-12-18T20:38:00.000+02:002008-12-18T20:38:00.000+02:00Down with Exaclibur haters! Fantasy films are inva...Down with <I>Exaclibur</I> haters! Fantasy films are invariably not very good. I am not particularly bothered by the way Conan the Barbarian diverges from the REH tales, mainly because that means Conan is working like a real mythology and being reinterpreted (and was being well before the movie).<BR/><BR/>That, I think, is the heart of the matter. If I want you to learn about Roland, should I direct you to <I>La Chanson de Roland</I>, the chronicle that inspired it, the Pseudo Turpin, or any of the many derivative texts that sprang from it? All of them, none of them? Two of them, one of them?<BR/><BR/>Frankly, there is plenty to dislike about PJ's LotRs, but the "disrespect" it has done to the source material doesn't really bother me. On the one hand you have a book written exactly as Tolkien intended, on the other you have a film made to make money and with the (lackluster) vision of PJ and Fran. Both should be appreciated for what they are (which may be worthless).<BR/><BR/>The real problem that you seem to be driving at here is "recognition". If the films are more popular and highly recognised than the books, then that is an unfortunate comment on the taste of the majority of the population, but hardly surprising, given that mainstream culture and "popular" give us such dreck as Big Brother, Harry Potter or the X-Factor/American idol, and a wide variety of other stuff that I think is absolute crap.<BR/><BR/>It all reminds me of Ursula le Guin's comments on the Sci-Fi channels version of <I>Earthsea</I>.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05646247954542936623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-81863297247079328132008-12-18T19:37:00.000+02:002008-12-18T19:37:00.000+02:00I watched the best D&D movie that will ever be...I watched the best D&D movie that will ever be last night- Bender's Game! Totally based on D&D and was just about as serious as the average adventure. <BR/><BR/>Good Fantasy movies are few and far between though. My favorites would have to be the old Sinbad movies, especially the one with Tom Baker in it. The Harry Potter movies are probably the best fantasy films currently. I do hold some hope for the HBO series for the George Martin books and the upcoming Avatar movie.Hakdovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00162408897716036685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-44804015383993064402008-12-18T19:30:00.000+02:002008-12-18T19:30:00.000+02:00There's a good reason I'm not sanguine about prosp...There's a good reason I'm not sanguine about prospect of <I>The Hobbit</I> film(s). I suspect, like <I>The Lord of the Rings</I>, the book will be reduced to fight scenes and opportunities to linger over expensive special effects. And since Del Toro is directing it, you can be sure it'll be filled with creepy and macabre monsters -- just like the books! Oh, wait ...<BR/><BR/>Oh well.James Maliszewskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00341941102398271464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-36091375870736912552008-12-18T18:56:00.000+02:002008-12-18T18:56:00.000+02:00I think I saw Excalibur a long time ago, but I'm n...I think I saw Excalibur a long time ago, but I'm not sure. Was that the movie in which the knights leaped around in plate mail that apparently weighed 2 ounces, and in which at least one knight had sex while still in his plate mail?<BR/><BR/>If that was Excalibur, I hated it. If that wasn't Excalibur, then I've never seen it and I hate some other movie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com