tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post1984223335793162367..comments2024-02-16T22:05:32.773+02:00Comments on LotFP: RPG: Role-Playing Games and Heavy MetalJimLotFPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02992397707040836366noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-72934192457497345452008-07-02T04:05:00.000+03:002008-07-02T04:05:00.000+03:00This might also explain why I'm such an angry and ...<I>This might also explain why I'm such an angry and bitter old fuck. Everything I enjoy started as a grassroots movement that accidentally became successful, and has since been co-opted by businessmen who bury the traditions that built their cash cows in order to sell to whatever the latest trend is in their industry.</I><BR/>Take up gardening, maybe?huthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16502682297320819595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-60040642432061317032008-06-29T00:46:00.000+03:002008-06-29T00:46:00.000+03:00This might also explain why I'm such an angry and ...<I>This might also explain why I'm such an angry and bitter old fuck. Everything I enjoy started as a grassroots movement that accidentally became successful, and has since been co-opted by businessmen who bury the traditions that built their cash cows in order to sell to whatever the latest trend is in their industry.</I><BR/><BR/>Too true!<BR/><BR/>I can't speak for metal (especially as scholarly as the sources you cite), but everything I've ever loved has gone this route. Role playing is just one of the many, many "industries" that has gone this route. And I hate it.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your very informative post.Will Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06379173017869751088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-58870389539224449962008-06-28T15:54:00.000+03:002008-06-28T15:54:00.000+03:00Interesting. Thinking about my own involvement in ...Interesting. Thinking about my own involvement in metal, I have to admit it is very peripheral. I was attracted to the scene as an 'alternative' to the music and identity that was associated with the mainstream pastal shirt wearing folk. Part of the attraction was that it seemed to embrace 'fantasy', but also it was because I already knew people who were into it, and they were kind of role models to my young mind.<BR/><BR/>My mental association of metal with RPGs (or D&D in particular) is almost entirely coincidental. We were listening to metal when we were playing, and a lot of the guys I knew who were into it were metalheads. There was a series of AD&D 2e adventures (Treasure Maps?)that took names from various Metallica songs, which reinforced the association.<BR/><BR/>When I decided to put an RPG group together a few years back, I particularly and purposefully targeted folk who looked like they were into metal.<BR/><BR/>Mind, it might be different here in the UK than in the US or wherever, as I get the impression that metal is a more acceptable mainstream sort of music abroad than it is here.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05646247954542936623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-72066156109016894662008-06-28T15:40:00.000+03:002008-06-28T15:40:00.000+03:00No coincidence that I find this post very interest...No coincidence that I find this post very interesting (metal and RPG fan here, as you know). I definitely have to check out the links you've provided as I'm very interested in the origins and roots of metal, as well as metal theory.<BR/><BR/>Totally agree about the corruption of metal--while it would be naieve to think that the great old metal bands weren't in it to make money, I think the genre was substantially damaged by "false" metal (hair bands specifically), which in many cases were actually record label influenced and produced. I've heard stories from bands like Dokken who were pressured by their label into going "glam" in order to sell records. Some serious corporate hack-work going on there.Brian Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05563309422791320114noreply@blogger.com