tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post5136681836245392909..comments2024-02-16T22:05:32.773+02:00Comments on LotFP: RPG: RPG.net vs Grindhouse, RPGPundit vs VornheimJimLotFPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02992397707040836366noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-6490537719197090312011-06-11T21:38:40.585+03:002011-06-11T21:38:40.585+03:00"Gimmick" is the wrong term and the wron..."Gimmick" is the wrong term and the wrong idea to describe Zak's approach in Vornheim. Ed's right that the implication of dishonesty is inherent in the word and way off base. Another false implication is that Zak does not normally play this way, that he threw together a set of cheap tricks and added them to the book to help it sell. The truth is that Zak plays this way all the time in his home game - looking for outside-the-box ways to think about gaming - and Vornheim faithfully reflects that. Characterizing Vornheim that way in the review is sloppy.<br /><br />But then, most reviews these days are sloppy. Serious criticism is a dwindling but still much-needed craft.Rick Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01707062453047354335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-32440911380139194872011-06-11T20:33:03.854+03:002011-06-11T20:33:03.854+03:00gimmick (ˈɡɪmɪk)
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1. something designed to attr...<b>gimmick (ˈɡɪmɪk)<br />— n<br />1. something designed to attract extra attention, interest, or publicity<br />2. any clever device, gadget, or stratagem, esp one used to deceive<br />3. chiefly ( US ) a device or trick of legerdemain that enables a magician to deceive the audience</b><br /><br />Many of Zak's ideas <i>are</i> clever devices and stratagems. But the only people they're ever used to deceive are players -- and only in good ways.<br /><br />So the word "gimmick" still doesn't really characterize them fairly.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14398295844409607075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-64714275250268804872011-06-11T18:07:48.106+03:002011-06-11T18:07:48.106+03:00To be fair, many of Zak's ideas are gimmicks. ...To be fair, many of Zak's ideas are gimmicks. Good gimmicks, but still gimmicks.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04732052814850525574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-40874740744076274142011-06-11T14:36:25.640+03:002011-06-11T14:36:25.640+03:00I had actually totally forgotten about the RPG Pun...I had actually totally forgotten about the RPG Pundit until this link....Badmikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06199830751033032585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-25588620162529766982011-06-11T10:44:54.435+03:002011-06-11T10:44:54.435+03:00"Wow, sorta dickheaded and not critical in a ...<b><i>"Wow, sorta dickheaded and not critical in a constructive way at all."</i>--The Degenerate Elite</b><br /><br />You talking about the RPG.net topic about LotFP or the RPG Pundit review of Vornheim?<br /><br />If you're talking about the RPG.net topic, then you're understating its useless dickheadedness very generously.<br /><br />If you're talking about the RPG Pundit review, then yeah. It's especially pathetic how he sees Zak's greatest innovations as mere <i>"gimmicks"</i>. It's like he can't imagine how anything that's a completely new way of doing something could possibly be of any real use -- even if it's actually the easiest way of doing that thing well that anybody has yet imagined and gotten the word out about.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14398295844409607075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-87770060030575900472011-06-11T10:29:44.009+03:002011-06-11T10:29:44.009+03:00"I couldn't make it past page 1 of the rp...<b><i>"I couldn't make it past page 1 of the rpg.net forum. I don't mind strong opinions, but when folks don't know the difference between 'this is how I feel' and 'this is objective reality,' then I just don't see the point in discussing anything with them."</i>--limpey</b><br /><br />I read it all the way to the end, and there <b><i>wasn't</i></b> any point in discussing anything with some of those guys.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14398295844409607075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-43454703656146503712011-06-11T08:19:19.841+03:002011-06-11T08:19:19.841+03:00And I'm addicted to Briton Rites, no real expl...And I'm addicted to Briton Rites, no real explanation. Thanks for that. Ha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-76335152390356785892011-06-11T00:29:13.314+03:002011-06-11T00:29:13.314+03:00Wow, sorta dickheaded and not critical is a constr...Wow, sorta dickheaded and not critical is a constructive way at all.<br /><br /><br />Just wanted to say that I think it is great that you are restless and want your books to look better and better. Too many game companies come up with a style that works, and then stick with it. Your books so far look awesome and the future can only be brighter for Lamentations. Keep on pushing and we will all keep on supporting you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-7834131729595647762011-06-10T22:26:09.240+03:002011-06-10T22:26:09.240+03:00That layout is actually not a million miles away f...That layout is actually not a million miles away from what's being discussed here.JimLotFPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02992397707040836366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-28412546847949044332011-06-10T22:03:28.273+03:002011-06-10T22:03:28.273+03:00What about this? It's nothing special, I know,...What about <a href="http://theyaqqothlgrimoire.blogspot.com/2011/06/my-two-cents-on-new-carcosa-edition.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>? It's nothing special, I know, just my two cents.Il Male™https://www.blogger.com/profile/02699384706214815033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-36068654320306661312011-06-10T21:18:25.970+03:002011-06-10T21:18:25.970+03:00Shitty reviewers are shitty reviewers, and 10d6 ou...Shitty reviewers are shitty reviewers, and 10d6 out of a 100 reviews are negative to be spiteful, but they represent only 2d6 percent of the actual gaming public. <br /><br />LotFP and Vornheim are amazingly brilliant. They're both brave and innovative and do thing in ways no one has thought of. The mainstream expects and desires more mainstream, which are safe. Safe = Boring. It's Spielberg vs John Waters. It's Back to the Future vs Pink Flamingos. The best things in life aren't for everybody. And it shows in the reviews.Reverend Dakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15589927717583694031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-38834817327250756292011-06-10T20:51:29.262+03:002011-06-10T20:51:29.262+03:00I couldn't make it past page 1 of the rpg.net ...I couldn't make it past page 1 of the rpg.net forum. I don't mind strong opinions, but when folks don't know the difference between "this is how I feel" and "this is objective reality," then I just don't see the point in discussing anything with them.Stefan Poaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08192911890556534923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-82723793791927764512011-06-10T18:26:31.580+03:002011-06-10T18:26:31.580+03:00I'm impressed you're making the effort to ...I'm impressed you're making the effort to learn about this stuff and improve your design skills. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457050225967190052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6670029344758253148.post-55852214694778615402011-06-10T18:24:18.323+03:002011-06-10T18:24:18.323+03:00From Amazon: http://icekingisanoxymoron.tumblr.com...From Amazon: http://icekingisanoxymoron.tumblr.com/post/978821543/youre-a-biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig-nerdTheodric the Obscurehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18201793290118146978noreply@blogger.com